Posts by Serenity Now

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WHat are you going to wear to Prince Charles wedding?

by Brummie in

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i'e been sweating about what i should wear, i was thinking maybe one of these suits...maybe could wear it to the popes funeral too, i'm not sure yet, .

Serenity Now

You know what they say: when a man marries his mistress, it creates a vacancy.

Keep that in mind when you pick your outfit, in case you want to catch Chuckie's eye and apply for position!

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Update -- wife given permission new union without my permission

by belu in

since my last post i found out that my wife lied to get a "vow of faithfullness with another man.

in march of 2004 she asked me to sign an agreement document to give to a lawyer in order to get our marriage annulled.

i agreed only on her promise not to give it to the congregation to be with another man but only for her lawyer.

Serenity Now

Max D--

You write very well for a six year old. They must have excellent schools where you live.

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Is it ok to be critical of the pope yet?????????

by tyydyy in

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censorship borg style.

somebody killed the pope's last poop thread just because someone else was offended when i mentioned that i think that he wasn't such a good guy.

if you think you might be offended by what's said in a thread then don't read it.

"On a personal note, I never respected the pope....after I left I still thought him to be totally wrong. However, today I had this discussion with my ex wife about him and I came to realise that everything I know about him has been learned from the WTower. I based my harsh judgements of him on all the misrepresentations I have been fed over the years....I wish I had learned from him rather than from the WT, then my judgements may have been more merciful."

Well said, Brummie. I remember seeing newspaper and magazine articles when I was still a JW and they would have misinformation in them about the JW's. I remember an elder saying that all of the beliefs of the WTS are in the literature; why can't people look up the facts before they print erroneous things in articles that mislead people?

I learned from that and, after leaving the JW's, I applied that to other religions. I found out that everything I'd been taught about the Catholic Church by the JW's was false. Every word. All I did was buy a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It is amazing how easy it is to look things up and find the WTS lies if you just have the reference tools at hand.

I've also got some Mormon resources, Lutheran resources, Episcopal resources, etc., and try never to believe anything said about a group without double-checking their "official" sources.

It's amazing, we can't really expect the WTS to say anything true about anybody else since their whole structure is built upon lies about themselves.

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Is it ok to be critical of the pope yet?????????

by tyydyy in

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friends

censorship borg style.

somebody killed the pope's last poop thread just because someone else was offended when i mentioned that i think that he wasn't such a good guy.

if you think you might be offended by what's said in a thread then don't read it.

Serenity Now

Stromboli writes: "They just saw him as an old man, definately not their leader, remember that only few give a shit about what he says."

Okay, I reread your post and mine and here's my follow-up:

No, Catholics didn't see JPII as just an old man. He was definitely their leader and deeply loved. Regardless of the fact that many Americans and Western Europeans are cafeteria-style Christians, 75% of the Catholics in the world are in third world countries and actually think people should try to live a life that is true to the teachings of the Church. Seventy-five percent of 1.1 billion people who cared deeply about what JPII said is not a "only few".

Regarding me stating things that weren't simply a response to your post, I didn't know I had to stick to just responding to your post. I also added some other things that were on my mind.

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How do you know when your spouse is cheating on you?

by Thegoodgirl in

okay, i know this is personal, but i kind of like the annoninimity of the board versus asking my friends who are all also friends with my husband.. my husband went out of the country with a group from work this weekend.

i was supposed to go but had to cancel due to other stuff.

it turned out only 4 ended up going, my husband, a guy, and two women.

Serenity Now

We tend to see others through the eyes of our own character. Despite very obvious evidence, I didn't realize my ex-husband was cheating on me until well after our divorce. Everybody else knew. Because I loved him so much that I would never have ever thought of cheating on him, I assumed he felt the same way about me. I believed every strange story he ever told. Boy, was I wrong. Best to find out now because, for me, I remember going out to dinner with a group of people and thinking at the time that all of the people I loved most in the world were around that table. I felt so happy. Later, I discovered that each and every person at that table knew then that he was cheating on me. Makes me very suspicious and over ten years later I still don't trust happiness. Find out now or it could have a negative effect on your emotional health for your whole life.

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Which Translation of the Bible would you say is most accurate?

by researcher in

which translation of the bible would you say is most accurate and was not influenced by any 'religious group' in the translation?

Serenity Now

I have several versions but DH and I like the Revised Standard Version best. We have both a protestant version and a Catholic version. We also have a New American Study Bible with lots of footnotes that is very easy to read.

A set I'd like to have is called the Nevarre (sp?) Bible. It's a commentary and has the text in Greek/Latin/Hebrew, whatever, on one side of the page and then translations in English and commentary on the meaning on the right hand side of the page. It's about a 16 volume set. It was recommended to me and I've seen it in bookstores but didn't have @ $175 to plop down at that time.

DH and I tend to read things in RSV first and then compare that text to other translations, including the NIV and Oxford English Bible.

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Science is a threat...

by homme perdu in

to many religions but i dont understand why.

do you think there will be an understanding between the two?

Serenity Now

I don't think I understand this thread. Science is a threat how?

Specifically, I'm confused because the late great Pope John Paul II stated that it's fine for science to theorize that life started with the Big Bang so long as they give God the credit for the Big Bang. The Pope, a former college professor, didn't seem to feel threatened by science then.

However, there is a debate between religion and science when, for instance, a "scientist", i.e., the primary neurologist for Michael Schiavo in the recent court case over his wife's wishes, referred to Terri Schiavo as a "houseplant" because she was neurologically damaged. In that case, the late great Pope stressed the dignity of all human life, which was at odds with our current culture of basing the worthiness of a human life on intellectual functioning levels as determined by the science of medicine.

The only threat, so to speak, I see between science and religion is a difference in the valuation of human life.

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What was your most embarrassing moments in the " feild service"?

by new boy in

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i know its an old thread, but its fun and educational.. i had many, but the one that come to mind the most is.

the orgy!!!.

it was southern calif. about 1969. i was 20 years old.

Serenity Now

We used to pick up this ancient sister from her nursing home and take her with us for an hour every Saturday morning. We took her with us on a return visit and, while we were inside, she asked to use the householder's bathroom. After we left, we were driving down the road and the old woman started rummaging in her bookbag and pulled out a big bottle of Listerine. Mom said, "Where did you get that?" The old sister told us she'd taken it from the bathroom at that householder's. Mom said, "You can't do that!" The old woman said, "But they had two," and put it back in her bag. From that time on, Mom would pick her up and take her to doctor's offices to put magazines in the waiting rooms and then took her right back to the nursing home.

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Just can't get this out of my head

by jt stumbler in

being recently self-dissassociated, i cannot get out of my head something that happened to me more than 20 years ago.

having studied much in my youth, and being the submarine witness that i was, i married at 19 and began my "worldly coarse".

i just knew it was the "truth".

Serenity Now

I remember something I heard several times from the platform back when I was still a JW: we were instructed to be very careful when we say our personal prayers like this out loud because Satan is listening too! Maybe it wasn't God who sent he JW's and the LDS to your door!

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Does anyone Love Jehovah anymore?

by defd in

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i know people have left for people issues but what about jehovah god and jesus?

what have they done?.

Serenity Now

Jez says: My take on it now:

"Jehovah" is a man-made invention. He no longer exists for me because he was inextricably connected to the JehovahsWitnesses...."

Wow! This really strikes me. I'm a Christian now but the word "Jehovah" to me is a dirty word. For me, it represents the god of the Jehovah's Witness, who is a sick sadist just waiting for people to mess up so he can slap them down.

I tend to avoid the name "Jehovah" at all costs because of the emotional baggage tied to it.